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    August 12, 2013
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>> poor bob. >> we have to go. that's it for "the five." see you tomorrow, everybody. willie roberts tomorrow from "duck dynasty" with us tomorrow. "special report" is next. the president's top cop wants to ease up on some criminals. is it smarter sentencing or going soft on crime? this is "special report." good evening, i am shannon bream, in for bret baier. we begin with big potential changes in the way cops, judges and criminals go about their business. a federal judge ruled the stop and frisk policy must change, and attorney general eric holder wants to rewrite rules on who goes to federal prison and for how long. james rosen has our top story.
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>> we in the federal government can become smarter and tougher on crime. >> reporter: to those ends, attorney eric holder announced new guidelines when prosecuting offenses, low level nonviolent drug offenses, not with cartels, will not have the stiff penalties. >> they do not serve public safety. they, let's be honest, some of the enforcement priorities we have set have had a destabilizing effect on particular communities, largely poor and of color. >> reporter: federal statistics show while the american population has grown by 33% since 1980, the u.s. prison population has grown in that same time by almost 800%. while african-americans makeup 12% of the u.s. population, they comprise 39% of federal and
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state prison inmates. holder also cited compassion, directing justice early release for elderly inmates that are nonviolent and served significant portions of their sentence. >> it is smart to do as well. it will enable us to use our limited resources to house those that pose the greatest threat. >> reporter: in practice, federal prosecutors will now craft indictments that may omit a detail like the volume of a drug that an offender was possessing, to avoid triggering mandatory minimum sentence. >> if clients i represent, companies i represent in federal criminal cases purposely left out information or misstated information in some document they had to file with the government, they could be charged with a felony. the attorney general is telling his prosecutors to do the equivalent of that in order to avoid triggering mandatory minimums. >> reporter: prosecutors handle
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5% of criminal prosecutions in america, and state and local handling the rest already exercise the discretion he urged. >> i think district attorneys across the country are shaking their head. it is almost impossible to get a united states attorney to take a quote, low level drug possession case, closed quote. i see his announcement as telling federal prosecutors to not prosecute cases they are currently not prosecute. >> reporter: when asked why the reforms were taken now, when prison overcrowding and issues have been known for decades, doj says the attorney took similar measures three years ago. holder is coming off a string of highly publicized controversies. >> we will talk about it with the panel. so many immigrants are headed to the u.s. from mexico, they're renting hotel rooms for some and turning others loose into the country. william la general he is has the
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story. >> reporter: illegal immigrants aren't typically treated to hotel rooms. after 550 mexican immigrants claimed asylum in one week near san diego, armed agents had to escort an overflow of families to hotels. two border patrol agents provided round the clock security. >> has to have been orchestrated by somebody. you can't, it is beyond belief dozens or hundreds of thousands of people would simultaneously decide they should go to the united states and make this claim. >> asylum is available to anybody that has a past persecution, has been persecuted, or has a well founded fear of future persecution. >> reporter: asylum claims essentially stop any deportation proceeding. among mexicans, such claims are rare and historically 91% are ultimately denied. while legal, critics say the claims are meant to overwhelm the system and win an immigrant temporary release, pending
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hearing for which few show up. >> we have a long history of people absconding from immigration hearings of one sort or another, they just blend back into the community. >> reporter: documents obtained exclusively by fox news show immigration agents transferred 30 illegal immigrants to this hotel and 70 others were released to addresses in california, texas, and florida, to wait for an immigration hearing. the administration claims it is simply following the law. an immigration official said the legal threshold for credible fear is broad and low, to ensure individuals who may face a significant possibility of persecution have the opportunity to have their case heard before an immigration judge. so why the claims now? well, last week the administration stopped the deportations, released nine mexican nationals who made asylum claim. some believe that finding provided a template and precedent for the claims we're seeing now.
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shannon? >> william, thank you very much. an afghan translator that risked his life to help americans under fire finds his life in danger again tonight. jennifer griffin is at the pentagon with a story of heroism, friendship, red tape. medal of honor recipient dakota meyer says he never could have recovered four americans killed in afghanistan in 2009 without the help of his afghan translator, whose life is now threatened by the taliban, and his visa application has been held up by the state department for more than three years. >> i looked at him, i said i need you to go with me. and he said you know what, it is very dangerous, he just had a new kid, and he said you know what, he said if it is my day to die, it is my day to die. at that point, he never looked back. >> reporter: last monday, meyer's translator sent an e-mail pleading for help. quote, the reason i am bothering
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you, the security situation where i am living getting worse and every night i am guarding to protect myself and my family. if you are getting upset, it is okay, i will not bother you any more. >> so the taliban know who he is, and for four years he has been left out in the battlefield, and gradually, they're going to get him. >> reporter: they only approved special immigrant visas. >> we improve efficiency at all stages of the process without compromising national security. >> reporter: the main reason no one wants a terrorist to use a channel to sneak in and carry out attack. in this case, dakota meyer says it is cut and dry. an official says the judge extended detention of ousted president morsi for 15 more days. pro-morsi supporters demonstrated again in cairo today. authorities postponed a move to disburse two muslim brotherhood
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sit-ins to avoid bloodshed. back in this country, most everyone is familiar with the term black box. the data recorder officials try to access after a plane crashes. you may not even know it, but the newer your car is, the more likely you have one in there. doug mcelway tells us whether that's good or bad all depends on who you talk to. >> magnificent motors. >> reporter: the automobile has been a metaphor for american independence and freedom. some fear this little device will change all that. the national highway traffic safety administration issued a proposed rule all cars be equipped with a black box, a data recorder by september next year. 96% of new cars already have them, measuring speed, pedal effort, seat belt use, wheel spin, direction. black box data retrieved from u.s. car accidents in a single day would provide more information than a year's worth of crash testing like this, head of the design team that's standardizing the devices but fears they have a massive
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privacy dilemma. he designed a lock to prevent anyone but the motorist from getting. >> they can roll the odometer back to zero, change the vin number, that's in the computer, and once they do that, it is okay for them to simply steal the motor vehicle. >> reporter: insurance companies could analyze data that change your rates or change their liability in an accident. overlaid with gps data, with technology under consideration to detect blood alcohol content of a driver, some say the black box could be a pandora's box of fourth amendment violations against unlawful search and seizure. >> we just want the data to be owned by the vehicle owner so it is required that their consent is given when the data is retrieved, whether by insurance company or law enforcement or others. >> reporter: black boxes used to vindicate toyota from
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here is chief political correspondent carl cameron. >> defund obama care. yes or no. >> reporter: town hall meetings nationwide suggest obama care will be a potent campaign issue in the elections next year, with tea party conservatives insisting reforms be defunded or they block next year's spending bills and shut down the government this fall. >> we need to show the american people we stand for conservative values. >> reporter: four tea party senators are pushing to defund obama care, mike lee from utah and three others. kentucky's rand paul, ted cruz who campaigned in iowa, and florida's marco rubio who urked tea parties, launched today saying obama care is not ready for prime time. >> the president had to delay a
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significant portion of it. >> reporter: top republicans say shutting down the government over health care could back fire. mitch mcconnell who faces a serious challenge from his right didn't sign onto a letter with 12 other republicans pledging to oppose any spending bill this fall that finances the affordable care act. in the house, john boehner and eric cantor discouraged shut down politics. the democrats sound like it will be a brawl. >> we will run on obama care in 2014. we expect to run on it and win on it. >> reporter: senate majority leader harry reid stirred things up more, indicating his health care reforms are a phase before a complete government takeover of health care. >> obama care is a step in the right direction but far from having something that work. >> beyond insurance. >> yes. >> that fires up both sides, inspiring liberals that want to socialize medicine and
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conservatives that want to halt obama care now. shannon? >> thanks, carl. the federal budget deficit was $98 billion. the dow lost 6, s&p 500 dropped 2, nasdaq gained 10. president obama is settling into his week-long vacation in martha's vineyard, but it is not like the president is far from the job. wendell goler tells us about one item on the president's to do list. >> reporter: in between missing putts with golfing buddies, president obama may use some of his time on his vacation thinking about a replacement for fed chairman ben bernanke, who is leaving the most powerful economic position in the world in january. >> it is definitely one of the most important economic decisions i make in the remainder of my presidency. >> reporter: he told reporters friday that he is considering a number of qualified candidates, some experts think the short list is down to larry summers,
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former head of national economic council, and treasury secretary under president clinton, and janet yellin, the first woman to head the fed. >> 70, 80% of value, yellin will be the nominee. and if it would be someone else, summers, there has to be market adjustment. >> reporter: that adjustment would likely be down. but wouldn't last longs. given the fed's dual mandate, keeping inflation low and employment high, the latter should be the focus. >> the challenge is not inflation, the challenge is we've got too many people out of work, too many long term unemployed. >> reporter: yellin thought to continue the policies to keep interest rates low until unemployment is down to 5 or 6%. years of money printing and borrowing to climb out of the great recession have some conservatives worried we may already be sliding to inflation without recognizing the symptoms. some economists think that makes
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summers the president's favorite. >> even friday he said we have a dual mandate, whoever i pick has to realize that the fed's job is to oppose inflation, not just promote employment. and that's a dig at someone who has a reputation as a dove. >> reporter: the president gave such a full throated defense of summers at a closed door meeting with democrats last month that some thought summers had a lock on the job. but in his news conference last week, mr. obama was pushing back a group trying to make yellin the early pick. >> thanks, wendell. begging people to take your money. the food stamp epidemic. first, did a detroit doctor make a lot of money by cheating his patients and you?
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san diego mayor bob filner says his client had less intensive therapy and will seek outpatient treatment for behavior that led to sexual harassment allegations by 14 women. filner the subject of recall efforts, demands for resignation, and all manners of criticism. the democrat says he is taking this week off. and new yorkers want their two scandal plagued democrats to go away. sienna college poll found an unfavorable rating for anthony weiner at a record 80%. 59% disapprove of eliot spitzer. weiner resigned his seat in congress over a sexting scandal, spitzer resigned governor after a prostitution scandal. a well known doctor in detroit charged with trying to rip-off taxpayers to the tune of $24 million in two years. correspondent laura engle tells us how and why.
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>> reporter: dr. farid fata, an impressive resume. completed residency in new york state, earned his fellowship at sloan cancer center in manhattan. he is accused of making millions mistreating people, diagnosing cancer when it wasn't apparent. in others, administering chemotherapy, tests, giving strong medications when not needed. an oncology nurse that worked at one of his six clinics filed a complaint with the state medical board, she claims she witnessed treatments that should have lasted minutes dragging on for hours. >> why didn't they do anything? that was three years ago! and in that time, how many people could have been saved and how many families could have been spared. >> reporter: fata was arrested last year, is held in wayne county jail. they want bail set at 9 million when he goes to court tomorrow. federal investigators have been gathering records from fata's offices and his mansion as they
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build their case against him. the 20 page criminal complaint lists numerous ways he tried to swindle medicare, deceive patients, and ordered assistants to miscode medical conditions to just guy expensive testing. fata's attorney insists his client is innocent and that the general allegations may come from disgruntled e government h an expert to see there was misdiagnosis or unnecessary tests to any patient. >> reporter: if convicted, he could get up to ten years in prison. patients or family members concerned about being treated by dr. fata are urged to contact the u.s. department of justice. shannon? >> laura, thank you very much. a creative new take on blaming the victim. that's next in the grapevine. and was mitt romney right about russia? ♪ (woman) this place has got really good chocolate shakes.
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>> russia, after all, has done its very best to keep us from putting in place crippling sanctions against iran. russia has been a geopolitical adversary on front after front around the world. >> biden was quick to criticize. i don't know where romney has been, we have disagreements with russia but they're united with us on iran. secretary of state clinton called it somewhat dated to be looking backwards instead of being realistic about where we agree. a tennessee judge changed a seven month old's birth name because he hasn't earned it. the parents went to court, they couldn't agree on his last name. the judge took issue with his first name, messiah. said it had to be changed to martin. she said that title is only for jesus christ. that was the fourth fastest rising baby name in 2012
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according to the social security administration. and finally the washington state supreme court says a drunken driver and her passenger can sue the power company for installing the utility pole they hit while driving intoxicated. a seattle tv station reports the driver's blood alcohol level was almost twice the legal limit, but the pole was only four and a half feet instead of a required ten feet. the passenger was permanently disfigured. the driver pled guilty to felony vehicular assault. over the weekend, we brought you a look at the rapidly expanding food stamp culture in america. this week we have highlights from the special. tonight, bret baier looks at the intricate outreach to food stamp recipients. >> individual has a certain income limitation. >> reporter: you're watching a team of determined activists, preparing their plan of action. >> guidelines changed a little bit. >> reporter: they'll be walking around the streets of brooklyn.
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the mission? to sign up as many people as they can for food stamps. the new york city coalition against hunger in action. >> people don't know they're eligible. >> reporter: a former clinton administration official is the organization's executive director. >> we have some information to receive snap benefits. >> reporter: that stands for supplemental nutrition assistance program. >> new name for the food stamp program. >> reporter: in 2008, the federal government officially dropped the term "food stamps" partly to fight the stigma associated with that term. but most everybody calls them food stamps, even people at the coalition. >> tell them you're prescreened and would like to apply for food stamps. >> reporter: they don't want to go to a government office to find out if they're eligible, he thinks, so the team set up shop at the super market. >> 50% of our customers on a
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monthly basis using snap benefits. >> reporter: this is the store manager. >> we feel it is a positive thing for the community. >> reporter: another part of the effort to reduce the stigma of food stamps was to get rid of the stamps all together. the government benefit is now electronically delivered via ebt cards. they work like any debit card. food stamp usage has been on the rise since 2000, but it's exploded under president obama. in 2008, 28 million were receiving food stamps. now about 47 million do. one big factor was obama's stimulus package. in addition to pumping more money into the program, it made qualifying for food stamps easier. the president insists increased spending on food stamps in the stimulus bill did indeed
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stimulate the economy. joel berg says it literally saves lives. >> we are just a hair away from large scale hunger malnutrition and starvation in america. >> do you really believe that? >> no question whatsoever. >> you're just laughing. >> absolutely preposterous. given the fact that only 1 in 20 american adults say they were hungry for even a single day during the course of a year, i think starving is -- the reality is that american poor people are not malnourished, they in fact eat too much food. >> reporter: if joel berg is the advocate of food stamps, robert rutger of heritage foundation is the skeptic. >> hunger skeptics discourt the data, create a huge mirage of a problem that doesn't really exist. it distracts our attention from the real issues, how you really
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help the poor rather than making them more dependent on government. >> denied you because your income changed? >> reporter: he says 80% of people that turn to his coalition for help are ultimately approved. some people they spoke to never thought they would be eligible. >> i am going to give you my number, my direct extension. my name is denise. we can help you with that as well, okay? she wasn't aware she can apply just for her daughter. >> reporter: you and volunteers stop and explain food stamps to just about every person on the street. >> yes. >> reporter: it could be construed as recruitment. >> we would never, ever try to convince someone that didn't want these benefits to get them. >> reporter: this is not just an academic question. recruiting people to go on food stamps is against the rules. but as you will see, the usda itself has gone right up to that line. did they cross it? their strategy to get past no.
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>> we will have more from the food stamp program all this week on "special report." tomorrow, a look at how far the usda was willing to go to expand the food stamp rolls. giving criminals a pass, illegal immigrants a free ride. we will talk about it with the fox all stars when we come back! when you realizeou need to switch to verizon, it's a reality check. i had my reality check when i'd be sitting there with my friends who had their verizon phones and i'd be sitting there like "mine's still loading!" i couldn't get email. i couldn't stream movies. i couldn't upload any of our music.
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by targeting the most serious offenses, prosecuting the most dangerous criminals, directing assistance to crime hot spots, pursuing new ways to promote public safety, deterrents, efficiency, fairness, we in the federal government can become both smarter and tougher on crime. >> i think it is probably unprecedented for a sitting united states attorney general to say i'm giving an order today to prosecutors across the country to no longer prosecute a certain offense. i've never heard of that. >> in some ways it is not the
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first time the administration has given that type of order. let's talk about it with the panel. bill crystal, editor of weekly standard. author of the book collision 2012, and also syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. there's bipartisan support out there for a lot of the ideas the attorney general proposed? >> there are. there are two issues that arise from there. one is question of policy. to what extent is it a policy that needs to be changed. how do you go about that. second, by executive or congressional action. i think on the latter, there will be significant debate. on the first, there's bipartisan agreement, some amount of agreement something ought to be done on this. >> bill, to the second point dan makes, there's a lot of criticism for the administration that there's a lot of executive action being taken. i think about this, it brings up the idea of directives given to immigration enforcement officers
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to not prosecute certain people, not turn in certain people they find here illegally. seems to be another step down that path. >> and the amazing liberties the president thinks he can take with obama legislation that he signed, his party and through congress he decided to waive the employer mandate, change rules of coverage for congressman and congressional aides, he can decide federal exchanges will be able to provide subsidiesubsidi just state exchanges, even though the research said that's not the case. i have been in washington awhile, not quite as long as dan and charles. >> we were here before you were born. >> i came to work in the executive branch, worked seven years at the education department of the white house, i am a fan of strong executives, i believe in executive power and executive energy but honestly, it is shocking what the administration, the liberties the administration is taking in their decisions about which laws to prosecute or carry out and what parts of laws to carry out.
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i really think if i were a republican congressman who was nervous, worried for them with the immigration legislation, why would you pass immigration bill? the president is just going to take the parts he likes, enforce those and waive or delay parts he doesn't like. >> that's been the criticism for a lot of folks. we look at doma, they said they wouldn't enforce or defend it in court, which they were ultimately -- that was approval of the supreme court, at least that section, relevant section was struck down, but there's a lot of criticism for this administration doing these kinds of things. but the attorney general sounded confident moving forward, talked about a number of directives he has given on a number of fronts. >> that's because he hasn't received any push back. what he's done now, what he's proposed with the drug laws is worse than just suspending the parts of the law, instructing prosecutors not to prosecute. he also is telling prosecutors who already have prosecutions in place that they can withhold evidence so that the defendant won't get a maximum or mandatory
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penalty. i mean, that's illegal. that's unlawful. i mean, that is simply shocking that that would be the instruction from an attorney general. i think it is one former attorney general, deputy attorney general said if you did that in a private case, you would be accused of a felony if you were prosecuting and withholding evidence. and it is epidemic, isn't only in this, it is in the obama care law. the administration's own law, the parts of which it is suspending. it is in the dream act, which is a union lateral suspension, and the president proudly says this. he goes out and says i will not allow congress to stand in the way of x, y and z. congress stands in the way if they don't approve. in banana republic, he stands up, i will not allow the old guard, will not allow a constitution by auto krat get in the way of helping people. that's not how we do things.
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it is shocking how little resistance it has gotten not only from the republicans but democrats that are endorsing continuous, repeated lawlessness. >> we miss the dream act, talked about the directive given to folks working on the issue of immigration, not prosecuting, not referring certain people for further handling, and that comes -- now we have a story about the influx of folks showing up at the border from mexico, and seemingly have the exact right phraseology to petition for asylum. i want to pay a little from pete nunez on this point. >> for every person that's admitted from mexico, who's admitted under one of these bogus claims, that's going to reduce the number of legitimate refugees and people admitted from countries that really deserve some better consideration. >> critics are concerned about the issue of immigration, hear
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this, the fact that the taxpayer is paying to put them in hotels or simply letting them go into the country, it is going to invite criticism. >> it will invite criticism, i don't know how epidemic this is. i think that's one of the questions. seems to me there are bigger issues in terms of immigration reform debate that have to be dealt with, and may or may not be dealt with by this congress. to the extent it needs correcting, it could be corrected if there were an immigration bill. it is not clear there will be. >> maybe the argument will work the other day. we thought of a family from germany, home schooled children there, which is essentially against the law, came to the u.s. for asylum. it was granted by the first immigration judge that heard their case. the justice department decided to appeal that decision and since then they've had a federal court tell them they have to leave the country. this is on appeal to the supreme court. bill, i want to ask you what kind of signal does it send? the average american says we have this problem at the border,
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then have a family that came here saying it is religious persecution for them. justice department instead of letting that stand actively chose to prosecute the family, try to get them deported. >> i thought they said they had no rational fear, i forget the standard of being persecuted from the country from which they were seeking asylum. whatever the legalities here, the pattern of nonenforcement of law and enforcing parts you like and waiving parts you don't like is pretty obvious, certainly obvious to critics of the administration like me and a lot of republicans on the hill. i think it will effect the immigration debate. it is a big debate coming in the fall. will the house move on that. they like something, don't like something, not sure, it could be a decisive argument to say if we pass any kind of legislation, which encompasses different kinds of things, some the president wants, path to citizenship, some he is not keen on, border security, internal security, he is going to waive
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parts he doesn't like. let's wait until there's maybe a republican senate or after the next president, make sure we have when we pass the law, it will be enforced. >> we need more charles. obama care, both sides say they're going to use it in 2014. could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. yep, everybody knows that. well, did you know some owls aren't that wise? don't forget i'm having brunch with meghan tomorrow. who? meghan, my coworker. who? seriously? you've met her like three times. who? (sighs) geico. fifteen minutes could save you...well, you know.
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we will be running on obama care in 2014. in fact, we set it up to run on it in 2014. we fully expect to run on it, and we expect to win on it. >> at this imploeds, we want those that wanted that single
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payor system, they want enough done that it would only go to a single payor system. we want to delay, defund, repeal, replace, get rid of this. it is not ready for prime time. >> members from both sides of the aisle say 2014 is time to talk about obama care. let's get back to the panel. charles, do democrats really have a choice? clyburn comes out and says we're going to embrace it. republicans are making it an issue whether they want to talk about it or not. >> he is putting up a brave front. they have no choice. they're all in on this. it is like romney on romney care. once you pass it, once it is yours, you own it. there's no point in running away from it. what republicans out to do is a two-pronged attack. number one, talk about the unfairness. you can be very specific about this. make the case that employers got
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a pass, individuals haven't gotten any. if you're big, rich, you have influence, a lobbyist, you got a pass. you got suspension of the requirement, individual mandate remains. and secondly, i think this is a small issue. it isn't a lot of money at all. and i think it is a symbolic one, the fact that if you're a member of congress and it is held in low repute, you get a subsidy in the exchanges that is only supposed to go to somebody that's poor. you're making $175,000 a year and your staff as well, and yet it is now the laws are jimmied so that you get a 75% subsidy from the government. anybody of your income in congress gets zero. you ought to focus on those two issues. as for the train wreck of implementation, you don't have to talk about it, let it happen, let it unfold. then you comment on it. >> but along with maybe the train wreck aspect, max balkas and harry reid talked about it,
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there are good things about the law, dan, that roll out ahead of mid terms. democrats will have some positive things to talk about. >> they will. and the president in his press conference friday before vacation talked about a number of those. basically said what do the republicans want to do. do they want to get rid of those things. there are things people like that are there, people are going to be able to stress. charles, we don't know at this point whether it is a train wreck on implementation. there are clearly problems. we know that. it is a huge, complex thing they're trying to do and they're going to have some problems. the question is public opinion at this point is so divided and so firm for some time, the question is will that shift as we see the actual implementation in a way that's harmful for democrats or helpful? >> you mention the president's press conference. want to play a little of that and back and forth with louie gohmert about how it could play out for the gop, and the perception of what they're doing. >> the really interesting
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question is why it is that my friends in the other party have made the idea of preventing these people from getting health care their holy grail, their number one priority, the one unifying principle in the republican party at the moment is making sure that 30 million people don't have health care. >> that's a false narrative. he said we're trying to keep people from having health care. that's just not true. that's an absolute blatent lie. >> but if it is said enough, bill, will voters believe it? >> look, dan made a key point. public opinion in general on obama care is critical, even hostile, but hasn't changed that much. 55, 45, 60, 40, something. the democrats figure they'll make the case, take a hit rather than get cute. on particular elements, on the individual mandate, 8 or 9 to 1 against. when they poll, do you think
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congressmen and staff should be treated differently than other people in the exchanges? that will get a huge response. the security and privacy arrangements never have been tested and all of this reporting about how there will be fundamental problems on that and other aspects of the exchange to delay it a year, if the republicans focus on those three elements, make that the core of their september obama care strategy, it would be hard for democrats to explain why it isn't reasonable to delay the exchanges, equalize relaxation of mandate, individual mandate and employer mandate, and fix the special exemption that congressmen and staff have been given. >> and having written a book on the 2012 election how it played out, looking at this for the mid terms, there are a number of key republicans split on this. you have the top republican in the senate, mitch mcconnell, not signing onto the letter, talking about the funding issues. but there are other vocal but there are other vocal storming tours across the country on this specific
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point. how do you think it factors into the ballot box essentially. >> we will get a better sense of that in the fall when this plays out in the immediate budget battle. part of it is the strategic decision of how hard you go and what you do and what you try to extract in terms of trying to get this changed. there is a risk for republicans that if they shut down the government on this, it could back fire against them. but there are some republicans who don't think that's the case and we have to seat leadership try to figure out the path forward on this. i mean, bill may be right that there is a step or two short of that that you could get something done. >> shannon: final word? >> you're going to make a threat and do something, make sure it's something you are prepared to do. it will be nuts for the republicans to end up shutting down the government. it always ends up hurting them. you should make other demands that are less -- that are less impossible and you might actually succeed. otherwise, it's a mistake. >> shannon: take charles advice. that's it gentlemen. stay tuned for the panel.
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